
Last week I received an email from one of my readers soliciting advice. Even though it’s a regular occurrence I’m yet to get over the fact that people value my opinion! My mother recently said…
‘Jesus is coming! You’re telling me because of that blob people tell you their problems? You young people have no secrets! ’
Sidebar: Blob is my mother’s word for blog. The phrase ‘Jesus is coming’ is her automatic response to any social or personal occurrence that she finds strange.
I'm prone to siding with my readers on issues. This is because you’re an intelligent bunch (last week someone kindly corrected me, Hegel not Marx/Lenin rejuvenated dialectic logic). And I like you guys! However for the first time in a while an email exchange with a reader revealed that we had no common ground. After agreeing to disagree, she suggested I write a blog post on the subject and you guys have the final say. As I believe a variety opinions voiced by an intelligent audience should lead to a higher solution to any problem, I agreed. Here it goes……….
Hoes, Housewives & Myths
The reader has an older brother who she cares about deeply. For years he has been a known womaniser. Much to her surprise recently he finally decided to settle down. Initially his family were pleased with his choice as his new girlfriend seemed to tick all the boxes. Unfortunately a few months ago an issue arose. According to numerous sources the seemingly perfect girlfriend has a ‘shady history’. Or to put it frankly she is/was a ‘hoe’.
The closing paragraph of the email began with the cliché…..
"You know what they say you can't turn a hoe into a housewife"
The emailer (is that a real word?) wanted advice as to how her family could go about essentially dismantling this relationship. Their words of caution have thus far fallen on deaf ears and she wanted a fresh take on what could possibly be done. Simultaneously flattered and offended that she thought I was that Machiavellian, I explained with good conscience I couldn’t offer such advice.
Before I proceed with my reasons why I came to this decision, I’d like to emphasise that I think her concerns are understandable and in many ways warranted. In fact if I were in her position I'd probably have the same reservations. But I’m not. This gives me the benefit of objectivity and the ability to analyse the situation without emotions clouding my judgment.
My Reasons
1) You cannot change your opinion on someone based solely on secondary sources
What strikes me is the young lady and her family liked the new girlfriend until other people started informing them of her past. There’s a disconnect between what the family have seen and what they’ve heard. On that basis I think the burden of proof should lie with the gossips rather than the new girlfriend having to go through the mill. We live in the world where individuals are quick to write people off based on secondary sources. Until they've seen this woman act indecently they must hold their peace. At present all they're doing is believing hearsay and potentially character assassinating an innocent woman.
2) The term "hoe"
I’ve blogged previously on this matter so I won’t go into too much detail. In short I hate the term hoe. It’s a slur that seems to be used exclusively to demean females, though logically both genders should be capable of being labeled a ‘hoe’. Moreover the ever-shifting hoe boundary means the term is rendered meaningless as it’s always relative to the person using it. Haven’t you noticed people use the term hoe only when a woman falls below their arbitrary sexual standards?
3) The idiotic hoe/housewife dichotomy
I despise the artificial hoe/housewife dichotomy that everyone’s accepted as gospel. Life is never that simple! Which authority mandated that a hoe can’t be a housewife and a housewife can’t transform into hoe? Who created this vast gulf? Surely there must be areas of overlap? Is there a definite correlation between sexual promiscuity and a woman’s character? Are we suggesting that housewives are on the whole better people? That’s like saying policemen and teachers have superior characters just because their jobs are vocations!
Sidebar: Let’s quickly address the elephant in the room touching itself. She stated her brother was a known womaniser. The less commonly used feminist cliché ‘You can’t turn a (man) hoe into a husband’ springs to mind.......
4) Even if the accusations are true….
No one in this world is so perfect they can occupy the moral high ground. My honest opinion is her brother and his girlfriend deserve the opportunity to succeed (or fail) at love as much as the next person. They should be allowed to have the chance to build a foundation without interference. Regardless of if the accusations are rumours or perfect truth, the brother should be allowed to find out by himself. If the relationship isn’t meant to be, universal law dictates it will erode without the need for meddling.
However!
Every time I pose this scenario to a friend they disagree with my stance. Am I wrong? Is my position on this issue far too ‘radical’? Does this family have the right and duty to ensure their loved one finds someone ‘better’? Should women labeled ‘hoes’ be forever avoided? Please let me know, I’m looking forward to your input!
Christiana
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Sad. Very very sad. She done wrong, only difference between that sister, the mother and the "hoe" is that the "hoe" got caught.
ReplyDeletethere a definite correlation between sexual promiscuity and a woman’s character?
ReplyDeletehmmm...yes...that is what the WORLD says...for now...things will change soon. Chastity is ALWAYS the silliest virtue. I am still not convinced and might never be convinced that there is any sort of value in denying oneself the glorius glorius enchantment that a safe sweet orgasm can create. :D
And hmm....really your friend and her family thinks its ACTUALLY her (their) place to interfere in the love life of her brother...
Really?
Sigh...I mean there has to be BETTER things one can do with ones time...
but then again...thats just me...
If the brother was a womanizer then I am forced into believing that the two deserve each other. One hoe for another, I say.
ReplyDeleteThe moment the family try to get involved, everything goes wrong. Let him learn for himself, because telling someone no, automatically makes them think yes. At least this way, the family can be supportive but when it goes wrong, they'll look like the heros for keeping a dignified stance on it. He'll appreciate them a lot more knowing they're there for him without interferring in his life.
I agree 100% with Chanelley.
ReplyDeleteThe family needs to sit on the sidelines and smile and wait for it to not work out or succeed. Really the family should be more worried about the "womanizing" behavior of the brother, and not the woman he is with.
I think we are forgetting something important here, the brother himself was also a womaniser. Why is that not an important part of the discussion. After all, we can say once a womaniser always a womaniser. The girl and her family really have no business trying to destroy that relationship, especially since they heard about her from outside sources. How accurate are those sources. Besides, everyone has a past. Who's to say she hasn't changed?
ReplyDeleteGirl I read it and I totally agree with you. Everyone has a past and i truly believe if someone wants to change they can. As I was reading your reasons I was thinking please please say what im thinking which is the dude was a serial philanderer himself errrrrrr hello!!!!!!!!!! so how comes he has been given the benefit of doubt but she hasnt been? ... I dont like or agree with double standards because if it was the other way around and the girls family were giving the guy grief over his past I bet a million pounds (one can dare to dream lol) that the family would be up in arms over it. The two of them both have chequered pasts so they should both be given the same chance to prove themselves if it works out then great for them if it doesnt then life moves on .P.S. Loving the hair cut very sezzy meeehhnnn!!!! xxxx
ReplyDeleteI agree with to 100% you cant judge a relationship on someones past..if u love someone u will learn to love them despite there mistakes or flaws...its not his familys place to pass judgement..
ReplyDeleteChristiana,
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you. Why is it that it's acceptable for the womanizing man to 'change his ways and settle down' and for the woman it isn't?
Did the emailer (lol! New Word!) explain her definition of 'hoe'? i detest the word as well! i'm curious, how many sexual partners does a girl have to have before being rendered promiscuous? i understand that the emailer is worried about her brother and she doesn't want him to get hurt. however, she needs to give the girlfriend the benefit of the doubt; the same way i'm sure the girlfriend has given the emailer's brother the benefit of the doubt (that is, if the girlfriend knows about his past).
to be brutally honest, i'm tired of people calling girls hoes while guys get the 'get out of jail free' card. it gets on my nerves! it's a shame that society has refused to let go of the double standards attached to promiscuity.
Dear Emailer, put yourself in her shoes. imagine if you finally settle down after being labelled a hoe and someone 'pours sand inside your garri' (rain on your parade) all because of your past, how will you feel?
xxx
Mimi said.....
ReplyDeleteAll the comments say it all. As you said, its all well and good that the family wants to be 'cautious' about the girl their son wants to settle with. But they are also the same ones who were worried about his womanising ways, so if the girl were a "good girl" wouldn't HER family worry about his past?
Its not always easy to see with objectivity in a situation, but his family must sit on the sidelines (not gloating, waiting for the relationship not to work out).If the relationship really does not work out, it may have less to do with the girl's past than with the couple's lack of compatibility. I really do wish them well and I hope the family can sit back, pray for the best for their son and ability to give him wise counsel.
By the way, Christiana, its the first of your blog posts I've read and I think you write incredibly well.
I like this post ;))
ReplyDeleteIt is very annoying us women are put under such scrutiny about our pasts/ no. of partners etc. Whereas men do not face such issues even when they too are reformed "hoes".
I am even betting the people trying to split them up are the women of the family i.e. Mum, Aunts as well as the sister who emailed you. Plus who were the people who have exposed the g/f's past?...hmm women I'm guessing.
Anyway it may even be the laws of the universe the brother has attracted a woman just himself into his life.
I too do not like the housewife/hoe dichotomy I have written about this and is like the Madonna/whore complex many men have about women. We are either or never a bit of both, good or bad. Some men it seems are in capable of viewing women as 3 dimensional.
People can change and should not be forever avoided however your reputation can follow you around. And you may never be able to escape from your past like the g/f in this post.
So called hoes are hoes for different reasons; lack of self love, self esteem issues, confuse sex for love etc etc. You may resolve this issues does that mean you should be forever tarnished no.
Even if it is just because you love sex/man/woman and sleeping with as many different people you may get bored of this life and decide to change....
To all the girls that said that "every girl has a past" excuse, I hope I don't end up with you LMAO
ReplyDeleteSeriously, IMO; everyone has a choice in life, and must be willing to pay the price that comes with it; be it in enjoying the 'pleasures' of being promiscuous / loose / a hoe / or using sex as a way to overshadow lack of self esteem
No self-respecting man wants to end up with a woman who's "Known Intimately" by possibly everyone on the block. Gone are the days when women actually wanted to marry as virgins, even worse, promiscuous women claim every right to be called a wife and respected as such!
(NOTE: promiscuity: Having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners - not a trait of a "Wife" hence if you saw your self as being one, you wouldn't be a "hoe" in the first place)
Being a Wife, or Mother has much more to do with personality that just a ring - the way you lived your life as a youngster will ultimately contribute to the way you deal with your childred (Ask your parent if you disagree).
Bottom line, You Reap what you sow! Yes, everyone deserves a second chance, but you can not neglect the fact that your actions always has rewards / consequences.
To conclude with humour: "You were born with your legs apart. They'll send you to the grave in a Y-shaped coffin" [Joe Orton)
I'm confused. He used to be a whore too. I dont know how it is in England, but in Barbados we are very frank and we dont mince words. We call guys whore and sluts here just like you would a girl. Based on his past, I don't really know what the big deal is. If his family thinks he deserves to find a good, nice girl, despite his past, surely she deserves the same?
ReplyDeleteI mean, screw their pasts, they are both changed for the better (hopefully). His family should just let them be.
Christiana said: 'It’s a slur that seems to be used exclusively to demean females'
ReplyDelete'Females' is also a slur and slag on women/ladies. Females = dogs, cats, rats, pigeons, molecules. Women/ladies/girls = people with vaginas, who I think you were referring to.
For example to say Tiffins Grammar School is 'the best female school in London' is bad grammar, you would say it's the best GIRLS school, it's like saying Obama is the first n****r President. It's just wrong in 2010.
This wasn't one of your best posts. Just as long as my boyfriend is not bringing home diseases then I couldn't care less whether other girls a hoes/housewives.
i meant slang, not slag
ReplyDeleteerrrr.... @SP I'm highly confused as to how you understand the term 'female' to be a slur. It's a scientific term used to distinguish between the two genders in a species: male and female.
ReplyDeleteYour analogy is also inaccurate. The reason we refer to it as a 'girls' school rather than a 'female' school is because only girls i.e. females not of formal adult age (if they were they would be women), attend it.
Also, referring to a school as a female school wouldn't be "bad grammar", it would just be an unusual turn of phrase. And, for a person who has written a comment with such obviously poor grammar, grammar really isn't a subject you should be commenting on.
@Christiana:
I'm in agreement with you. Yes, the family's reservations are understandable, but they should take note of their surprise and acceptance of their own son's ability to change HIS promiscuous ways and grant his new girlfriend the same benefit of doubt.
@ Stormin. Was thinking the same thing, how is female a slur? Then in the same vein male must be too.
ReplyDelete@Christiana. Thanks for the comment and the heads up about the wrong web address, I have now changed it :)... more vlogs soon please. And love cut the chat you rep well for the ladies X
@Stormin:
ReplyDeleteFemale is SLUR... the only place 'females' are accepted are in hip hop videos... it's degrading... who cares about whether male is a slur... the gender's are not equal. LOL.. it's not really negotiable... just bad grammar.
I know this is not the most appropriate place but I wanted to share what I wrote for you for the Cosmo blog awards.
ReplyDeleteI have read many blogs and none as inspirational and eloquently written as this. Christina is a twenty something woman who can relate to both people older and younger than her, and does this with her insightful tips with a dash of humour. She is the voice many women wonder about the issues they have and if anyone else faces them. Before Christina I didn't have anyone in a motivational blogging way to agreed with my views or made me reconsider things. It could of been easy for Christina to blog about fashion, but she has gone to core issues such as friendships, average chick theory and the fifteenth minutes of fame generation. She through her blogging interacts with her fans in a highly intelligent manner. I think Christina is deserving of the award and this is why I nominate her.
@SP
ReplyDeleteStill lost as to how the term 'female' is a slur...or bad grammar...but I'm just an English and Writing Major averaging a 1st, so, what do I know?
Chick, honey, babe, bird, shorty - terms like that are slurs, if you want to be pedantic. But 'male' and 'female' and just biological terms. If anything 'girl' is a slur when referring to a grown woman. I don't believe I've heard a bar that used 'female' to reference a woman. Ho, bitch, girl - yeah. Female? No.
But we agree to disagree. It was interesting to hear your opinion.
Narrrrr mate no way.
ReplyDeleteYou can't dismiss a girl like that just because her past is backwards.
First of all, like you said, there's no way in hell you can begin to take OTHER people's stance on things and then proceed to be the saboteur, never ever. If young lady is so concerned, she should sit with her brother and talk about the issue. At the end of the day, her brother is grown, grown enough to make her own mistakes and grown enough to find his own blessings.
I believe with good guidance and surrounding yourself with the right people, you can turn a "hoe" into a house wife, it may take time and work but it can be done.
xoxo
I hate to sound like a feminist but it completely irks me what men can get away with while a woman doing the same thing will be chastened vehemently. It's ridiculous. I'd like to believe there a reason for everything, and if these two had found each other, there's a reason! So I think sister should take a seat and let God do the driving.
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ReplyDeleteI agree completely with you Christina and anyways, how is it that the guy in question who was previously a 'womaniser' can change to be a settling down kinda guy but the woman who allegedly has a promiscuous past must be annihilated loll!
ReplyDeleteMaybe its best to have your wits about you, keep your eyes peeled and your ears open but do not write someone off based on hear-say. At the end of the day its the brothers choice if he wants to continue seeing this woman and finding ways of bringing them apart will only draw them closer together anyway.
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I'm curious as to how people can complain about women not getting away with being promiscuous when, in some cases it's a standard in which some women allow to occur. We should be in a society that does not encourage any kind of promiscuity. It's almost as if some fail to realise that MALE virgins aren't celebrated as much as female virgins, and I think many women would be in denial if they failed to admit this, otherwise I gaurantee it that men would be less promiscuous. The fact of the matter is some(I really mean many) women like men that they perceive other women like and many of these women like men with experience in the bedroom along with confidence etc. On the other hand men would preffer to be able to say that no one has ever been with their wife, let alone numerous different guys. While some women will feel satisfied feeling they've tamed the player and they were the one that 'bagged him', that approach doesn't fly with men as we want to conquer uncharted territory. It's just 1 of those situations where believe it or not, women are at fault for things being the way they are. So complain about the double standards all you want, but unless women change their standards in such regards, this will hardly ever change. That's why you find more often than not women fighting for men. Men may fight over a good woman or a loyal woman, but never a 'hoe', unless the man is no good himself.
ReplyDelete@SP I can only assume you are young or it may be the case where while you were growing up the word female was used towards you in a very negative way. But your kind of thinking is what we don't need. For you to think the word female is demeaning is very damaging and is the type of thinking that will continue to lead women to feel less than men. I beg of you to ensure this type of thinking does not get passed down to your kids.